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MessageSujet: Su Doan 5 Bo Binh   Su Doan 5 Bo Binh EmptyMer 9 Avr 2008 - 15:42

Does any one know more about this patch. It has a safety pin on the back.
In VNese it means 5th Inf Div.
It must have been used around 62/63...

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MessageSujet: Re: Su Doan 5 Bo Binh   Su Doan 5 Bo Binh EmptyVen 11 Avr 2008 - 20:06

This is an interesting insignia; it's the badge of Su Doan 3 Da Chien. In January 1959 the division was renamed Su Doan 5 Bo Binh; the badge has been altered to reflect that change in designation. The 3 has been unpicked, its shadow remains, and a 5 added; The inscription at the top would originally have read Su Doan Da Chien.
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MessageSujet: Re: Su Doan 5 Bo Binh   Su Doan 5 Bo Binh EmptySam 12 Avr 2008 - 2:47

Thanks again Rolfi !
You are definitely right about the number 3. I have a photo of the original owner before the patch was altered, with the number 3 on it. I was not sure for the date but now it is clear !
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MessageSujet: Su doan 5 Bo Binh   Su Doan 5 Bo Binh EmptyJeu 10 Sep 2009 - 4:50

Rolfi is correct. The badge is for the 3rd Field Division previously known as Su Doan Nung. Nung is a warrior race in North Vietnam whose spoken language is a "Vietnamized" Cantonese Chinese. First commander of SD Nung was Colonel Voong A Sang and 1st CO of SD 3 Da Chien was Lieutenant Colonel Pham van Dong (who married a Nung woman).
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MessageSujet: Re: Su Doan 5 Bo Binh   Su Doan 5 Bo Binh EmptyJeu 10 Sep 2009 - 12:08

Very interesting ! Thanks.

I guess that doesn't mean that all the guys in the unit were Nung ?

I also guess that the Pham Van Dong is not related to the PVD of the north !

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MessageSujet: Re: Su Doan 5 Bo Binh   Su Doan 5 Bo Binh EmptyVen 21 Sep 2012 - 11:35

It's funny - theair names are same but a little difference.

North Army : former Prime minister PHẠM VĂN Đ ỒNG

ARVN General : PHẠM VĂN Đ ỔNG ( with symbol ? above the letter Ô )
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